Comments on: ToraDora! #25 — Clawing Out of the Wreckage http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:07:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Maruku http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-27385 Maruku Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:10:39 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-27385 Matter of difference in opinion or not, a certain amount of maturity, experience, and realism is needed to thoroughly enjoy this series. For me, it was kind of scary how easily and accurately the makers of ToraDora depict your typical teenage high school problems. Only, they went on to show that how terrible the side-effects could be, with good things going on in the amidst of things. I found this series quite the series to analyze. The deeper meanings are not that deep (as in it's relativity easy to find and understand), and they really hit home. At least with me. Matter of difference in opinion or not, a certain amount of maturity, experience, and realism is needed to thoroughly enjoy this series. For me, it was kind of scary how easily and accurately the makers of ToraDora depict your typical teenage high school problems. Only, they went on to show that how terrible the side-effects could be, with good things going on in the amidst of things. I found this series quite the series to analyze. The deeper meanings are not that deep (as in it’s relativity easy to find and understand), and they really hit home. At least with me.

]]> By: Anonymous2 http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-25587 Anonymous2 Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:21:36 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-25587 I agree with Anonymous that posted on March 27, 2009 at 8:14 pm. Ryuuji and Taiga falling in love was completely forced and contrived. I can see Taiga falling in love with him but Ryuuji falling in love with her? Come on. He was practically forced to after he was rejected by Minori (and her reason to reject was pretty stupid, she just wanted him to be with Taiga even though she had feelings for him too). Throughout the majority of the show Ryuuji and Taiga came off as just close friends who really cared about each other and took care of each other and there was no romance or sexual tension between them at all. So the resulting romance between them was ridiculous. I guess my point is they could have done a better job to get to that result. IMO they screwed up. I agree with Anonymous that posted on March 27, 2009 at 8:14 pm. Ryuuji and Taiga falling in love was completely forced and contrived. I can see Taiga falling in love with him but Ryuuji falling in love with her? Come on. He was practically forced to after he was rejected by Minori (and her reason to reject was pretty stupid, she just wanted him to be with Taiga even though she had feelings for him too). Throughout the majority of the show Ryuuji and Taiga came off as just close friends who really cared about each other and took care of each other and there was no romance or sexual tension between them at all. So the resulting romance between them was ridiculous.

I guess my point is they could have done a better job to get to that result. IMO they screwed up.

]]> By: Tremere http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22744 Tremere Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:05:15 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22744 I have noticed something about you Aroduc. Even when you express cynicism or hatred for some shows, the fact that it is featured on Tenka Seiha is a reason for me to watch and enjoy it, especially when you bother to cover the entire series. I really enjoy Toradora! And I will buy the light novels to get a better picture. I have noticed something about you Aroduc.

Even when you express cynicism or hatred for some shows, the fact that it is featured on Tenka Seiha is a reason for me to watch and enjoy it, especially when you bother to cover the entire series.

I really enjoy Toradora! And I will buy the light novels to get a better picture.

]]> By: Manji88 http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22577 Manji88 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:03:11 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22577 I liked the series a lot...until Taiga walked away from Ryuuji for a year, with no contact, so she could build a relationship with her so-called family. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far. I liked the series a lot…until Taiga walked away from Ryuuji for a year, with no contact, so she could build a relationship with her so-called family.
Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.

]]> By: Arbitrary http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22521 Arbitrary Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:16:44 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22521 I agree, I find that he totally missed the whole story behind Toradora. If you take the time to read the novel you'll see that there's much more character development, especially for Ami, which makes the series much better. After reading most of the novel, I don't believe that Toradoa was meant for those people who are simply looking for comedic relief in an anime. This was certainly one of the best comedy/romance animes I've seen. The plot was great and in addition to that the characters' personalities and interactions were done really well. I suppose its just a matter of a difference of opinion. I agree, I find that he totally missed the whole story behind Toradora. If you take the time to read the novel you’ll see that there’s much more character development, especially for Ami, which makes the series much better. After reading most of the novel, I don’t believe that Toradoa was meant for those people who are simply looking for comedic relief in an anime.

This was certainly one of the best comedy/romance animes I’ve seen. The plot was great and in addition to that the characters’ personalities and interactions were done really well.

I suppose its just a matter of a difference of opinion.

]]> By: Winter 09 :: tis the Good Ends season for KugiRie tsunderes | hontou ni sou omou? http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22514 Winter 09 :: tis the Good Ends season for KugiRie tsunderes | hontou ni sou omou? Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:04:48 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22514 [...] actually enjoyed the endings for ToraDora! (Aye: Totali and Kurogane | Somewhat dissenting opinion: Aroduc) and the fourth season of MariMite and, what’s more, found myself cheering on KugiRie charas [...] [...] actually enjoyed the endings for ToraDora! (Aye: Totali and Kurogane | Somewhat dissenting opinion: Aroduc) and the fourth season of MariMite and, what’s more, found myself cheering on KugiRie charas [...]

]]> By: Abby Nipp http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22502 Abby Nipp Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:05:34 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22502 You hater! Toradora was a very good series, and I think i just kept reading your blog because you got so much images that I can see before the raw. but, well, at least it ends and you could not still blame at it. You hater! Toradora was a very good series, and I think i just kept reading your blog because you got so much images that I can see before the raw. but, well, at least it ends and you could not still blame at it.

]]> By: zero http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22486 zero Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:22:35 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22486 first off, i was ruujiXami, and although she got so little screen time (and she didnt even make an attempt to steal him), I am still ok with ruujiXtaiga. I wish they would have put more into her though. Secondly I have to completly disagree with your assessment of Toradora. I came off of Itazura na Kiss being the best RomCom I had seen and this one blew me up. Not only did the characters have a surface personality, but they had depth and something deeper, hinted at at 1st, but then exposed later. Yes the inko resolution was rushed, but if they just jumped to the part where taiga was like 'your son got hit by a car and hes gonna die, come to...' moms running im sorry. Besides that it seams like you didnt get a lot of the romance stuff, and to be honest, the scene in the bedroom at night gave me nastalsia b/c almost the exact same thing happened to me. So its not like its just some 'lets show this so the dumber viewers can get it', it was there 1st kiss, every girl wants to get married, even taiga (after she asks for ruuji to immitate a mariage) says she didnt think she would. So acting it out was like a scary step down a dream come true path. Also she could just have been trying to find an easy way to get ruuji to kiss her (b/c hes the pansy and she owns him). Plus fans would have been pissed if they never kissed (i mean they didnt even kiss in the end, unless you count that head to face contact as a kiss). All in all besides being too cynical or over simplifying the situation instead of looking at it for what it was, it was the perfect ending (putting fruits basket, Special A, Ouran High School Host Club, Ichigo 100%, etc to shame). first off, i was ruujiXami, and although she got so little screen time (and she didnt even make an attempt to steal him), I am still ok with ruujiXtaiga. I wish they would have put more into her though.

Secondly I have to completly disagree with your assessment of Toradora. I came off of Itazura na Kiss being the best RomCom I had seen and this one blew me up. Not only did the characters have a surface personality, but they had depth and something deeper, hinted at at 1st, but then exposed later.

Yes the inko resolution was rushed, but if they just jumped to the part where taiga was like ‘your son got hit by a car and hes gonna die, come to…’ moms running im sorry.

Besides that it seams like you didnt get a lot of the romance stuff, and to be honest, the scene in the bedroom at night gave me nastalsia b/c almost the exact same thing happened to me. So its not like its just some ‘lets show this so the dumber viewers can get it’, it was there 1st kiss, every girl wants to get married, even taiga (after she asks for ruuji to immitate a mariage) says she didnt think she would. So acting it out was like a scary step down a dream come true path. Also she could just have been trying to find an easy way to get ruuji to kiss her (b/c hes the pansy and she owns him). Plus fans would have been pissed if they never kissed (i mean they didnt even kiss in the end, unless you count that head to face contact as a kiss).

All in all besides being too cynical or over simplifying the situation instead of looking at it for what it was, it was the perfect ending (putting fruits basket, Special A, Ouran High School Host Club, Ichigo 100%, etc to shame).

]]> By: Hanagumi » Blog Archive » Random shit http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22476 Hanagumi » Blog Archive » Random shit Sat, 28 Mar 2009 01:58:42 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22476 [...] Seiha odió el final de Toradora! con toda su alma, igual no lo culpo… opinaría más al respecto pero no quiero spoilear a [...] [...] Seiha odió el final de Toradora! con toda su alma, igual no lo culpo… opinaría más al respecto pero no quiero spoilear a [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://tenka.seiha.org/2009/03/toradora-25-clawing-out-of-the-wreckage/comment-page-1/#comment-22470 Anonymous Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:14:02 +0000 http://blog.seiha.org/?p=3253#comment-22470 Pretty much feel the same way. I picked up Toradora because the first half was genuinely funny with likable characters. By now I am so goddamn tired of tsundere characters, but they did Taiga well, so that was a huge plus too. But then it nosedived into this angst ridden tween drama portion, and honestly the only reason I finished the series was because I cannot stand to leave shows I have watched midway through. I don't know, maybe all the tsundere ends have left me incredibly jaded. They became very close friends halfway through, why is it such a bad thing for them not to continue that to the end of the series? It just seemed like the Taiga end was forced onto the viewer, rather than making it seem like a natural progression. Perhaps the light novel makes it more obvious. Pretty much feel the same way. I picked up Toradora because the first half was genuinely funny with likable characters. By now I am so goddamn tired of tsundere characters, but they did Taiga well, so that was a huge plus too. But then it nosedived into this angst ridden tween drama portion, and honestly the only reason I finished the series was because I cannot stand to leave shows I have watched midway through.

I don’t know, maybe all the tsundere ends have left me incredibly jaded. They became very close friends halfway through, why is it such a bad thing for them not to continue that to the end of the series? It just seemed like the Taiga end was forced onto the viewer, rather than making it seem like a natural progression. Perhaps the light novel makes it more obvious.

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